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62-year-old with a rising PSA to 4.
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We have our images, and I have an axial T2.
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The ADC map rendered at 1400 by 1400, an interpolated
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high B value with B equals 1600. And here I have
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a sagittal T2 that I'll sometimes slip in, uh,
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arterial phase from the post-contrast dynamic series.
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You can see the arteries are bright, but the
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draining veins are not, so it is an arterial phase.
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Okay, so we start at the peripheral zone,
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and on both T2 and ADC, the peripheral zone
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looks to be high signal, which is normal.
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So we go to the bottom of the gland, come back here.
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And one thing we note is way at the bottom
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of the gland, there's some distortion on
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the ADC map, and there's some low signal.
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It's hard to know if that low signal
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is real or if there's a lesion there.
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And this is from a small amount of air in the rectum.
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So one of the limitations,
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3T is susceptibility from air in the rectum.
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And this is mitigated by giving, you know,
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antispasmodics, such as Buscopan or glucagon,
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making sure the patient has a good enema prep.
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Uh, but the best way to do this really is to use
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advanced diffusion techniques like a multi-shot
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diffusion, uh, that keeps the echo train short, keeps
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the TE short, uh, and reduces the distortion.
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So you get here and, you know, is this artifact,
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you know, it's dark on the ADC map, it's the
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only place that's bright on the high B-value image.
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Maybe there's something there on the axial
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image, but it's not very, um, um, distinct.
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So remember, we image T2 in all three planes,
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and I've pretty much just been showing you the axial
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planes, but you gotta look at all the planes.
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And that, that went in the wrong window here.
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Let me put that one there, put the axial back here.
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Well, if you look down here In this left
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base, sorry, left apex, look, there is a
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well-defined low signal T2 lesion there.
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So, the fact that there's actually something
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there on T2 is going to make me think
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that the diffusion image is accurate.
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Now, it won't let me show you what the
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ADC value is, but it was in the 500s.
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So I've got a focal well-defined area of low ADC in
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the 500s, well below the 1000 threshold that I use.
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Alright, it measures less than 1.5 centimeters.
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I don't see an extracapsular spread.
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Uh, that makes it a PI-RADS 4 lesion.
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That's what we call it.
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It was biopsied, and we got
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Gleason 4 plus 4 disease in it.
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Let's keep going, because there's some other areas
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of subtle diffusion abnormality on the ADC map.
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So there's a region right here,
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and this corresponds to a T2 finding.
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Now it's dark on the ADC map.
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The ADC value measured above 1000.
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It's not bright on the high B-value,
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so we're looking at a PI-RADS 3 score for the
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diffusion because it's a focal well-defined
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abnormality on one of these two, but not on both.
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And then it becomes very important to look at
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the post-contrast images, because something
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with a PI-RADS score of 3 on the diffusion gets
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bumped to a 4 if there's focal enhancement.
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So if we look at this area,
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let's find it again right here.
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There is some focal enhancement.
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So this is a PI-RADS three elevated to a PI-RADS four,
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which in my opinion is like the worst part of PI-RADS
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because it's done because there's a small number of
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these that will turn out to be significant cancer. But
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not very many and you don't want to miss them. But you
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know that most of these that you biopsy are gonna turn
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out to be negative. And then you do unnecessary biopsies
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and you don't want to call them. But you know that some
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of them are gonna be positive and it's in the life.
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It's in the lexicon, so they're PI-RADS for us.
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This was biopsied and it was benign tissue.
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And then the other area is right here,
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which, you know, it's hard to see on the ADC
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map, but maybe you see it first on the
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T2 weighted image as a little low signal nodule.
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It does have a focal area of decreased diffusion.
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The ADC value is well above a thousand.
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It's not present on the high B value image.
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That makes it a PI-RADS 3.
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It does focally enhance, that makes it a 4.
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This was biopsy, it also was benign tissue.
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So, one of the approaches is, you look for
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something abnormal on the diffusion, and if it's
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abnormal on both the ADC map and the high B value,
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it's going to be either a PI-RADS 4 or 5 based
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on size or presence of extracapsular disease.
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It's pretty uncommon to have a tumor that's dark on
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the ADC map and is not dark on the T2, but it happens.
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Now, conversely, if I see something dark on the T2,
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then I go and I make sure that I check the ADC map.
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And by coming at it from both ways,
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you make sure you don't miss anything.
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And in this case, there are two such
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findings that are dark on the T2, dark
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on one of the two diffusion techniques.
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That gives you a PI-RADS 3, and then they enhance, and
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now it's a 4, and you biopsy them, and enough of them
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will be positive that it's worth doing the biopsy.
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According to the literature, I
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don't feel very good about it.
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Let's go to the rest of the study.
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So you have the transition zone, which has no
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focal areas that are concerning for neoplasm.
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Again, here's a nice example
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of thickened anterior stroma.
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It's where there's no peripheral zone.
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It's usually bilateral, and it will interdigitate
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between nodules in the midline.
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Again, on the arterial phase,
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there's no enhancement in this area.
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So this case is, A, a nice example of how
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some air in the rectum can cause warping.
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It's a nice example of how to approach things
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that you see on T2 but maybe don't, sorry,
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things that you see on T2 in the ADC map,
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but are very subtle on diffusion, but they
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enhance, and that can kick them from a 3 to a 4.
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And it's another nice example of anterior stroma.
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