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IDH mutant Gliomas.
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As we already know, majority of the lower
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grade gliomas, grade 2 and grade 3,
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they have IDH mutation.
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Majority of the secondary GBMs which arise from
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lower grade gliomas and get into
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malignant transformation,
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they also have IDH mutation, and only a small
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percentage of primary De Novo GBMs
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5 to 7% have IDH mutation.
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Now, this is an example over here,
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a large well-defined heterogeneous, enhanced
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tumor in bilateral frontal lobes.
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You can see more importantly,
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it's a younger patient,
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28-year-old, clinically intact,
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presenting only with headaches.
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And if I show you the CT scan,
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we do see some curvilinear calcification within
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the left frontal portion of this tumor.
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And once we see that, and based on,
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of course,
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the young age and how the tumor looks,
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we can very clearly say that this is an
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IDH-mutated glioma. And more importantly,
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based on the calcification,
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we could also suggest that this could be an
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oligodendroglioma, and this is what it
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turned out to be. It's a grade two.
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IDH was mutated, one P90Q was co-occurring.
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And based on that,
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the neuropathologist gave an integrated
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diagnosis of oligodendroglioma.
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And one more thing we know,
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these mutated gliomas,
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especially oligos, they grow rather slowly.
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The median survival for these patients is
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around 15 years versus around eight years for IDH
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mutated astrocytoma. And this is an example,
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you know, a patient who had a non-enhancing tumor,
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I'm not showing you the post-contrast images,
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but you can see there is very slow
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progressive growth. And in fact,
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the neurosurgeon and the neuro-oncologist, because
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the patient was otherwise clinically intact,
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um decided to wait and watch this.
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And finally, in 2018,
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when the tumor was still not showing any
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contrast enhancement, was large enough, you know,
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they decided that they're gonna take it out.
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And this one turned out to be again an oligo.
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And
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uh another thing we discovered in 2017 is uh
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this group of uh tumors which
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show this imaging sign,
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we call it T2 Flair mismatch sign where these
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tumors which are non-enhancing,
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uh they're very homogeneously bright on T2
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weighted images. And more importantly,
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dark on FLAIR images in the central part and
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except maybe a peripheral rim of bright
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signal on the FLAIR images.
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And this is what we call T2 Flair mismatch sign.
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These are tumors which show very low blood
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volume uh and hardly any restricted diffusion
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in the central part of the tumor.
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And more importantly occurring in younger
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patients and patients who are clinically intact.
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And this one just presenting with headaches.
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And we learned about these tumors that these
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are IDH-mutated molecular astrocytoma,
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which have a TERT loss.
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And this is what we called
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as the T2 Flair mismatch sign.
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Um The important thing was um with this
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paper in Clinical Cancer Research,
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we showed that this sign was 100% positive
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predictive value. Once we see this sign,
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it's almost certain that this tumor is gonna
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be an IDH-mutated non-core it or molecular
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astrocytoma with one very big caveat that
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not all astrocytomas show this sign,
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only 15 to 18 or maybe 20% of astrocytomas show
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the sign. But once we see see the sign,
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you know,
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we are fairly certain that this
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is a molecular astrocytoma.
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And this study has been validated by multiple
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different research groups,
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multiple publications.
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So this is another patient, slightly older,
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57-year-old, presenting with
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anxiety and headaches.
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And what we noticed is that there is a non-
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enhancing infiltrative signal abnormal in the
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left frontal lobe with slight expansion of the
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gyri. Um there's hardly any enhancement.
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And as we know,
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um majority of the lower grade
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gliomas are IDH-mutated gliomas.
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They occur in younger age groups,
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but some of them can also be seen in
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older individuals. For example,
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this one turned out to be an IDH-mutated
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grade two astrocytoma and you,
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you can see there was a CT scan available from
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almost eight years ago and this tumor was there,
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um just not called,
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it's very difficult to call
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on just on the CT scan.
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Uh But you can see there was some hyperdensity
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suggesting that these,
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these tumors can be lying innocuous uh in,
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in the brain and may not present.
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Uh and and may not progress uh rather quickly.
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Uh Another thing which our discovery of IDH
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mutation has led to is a paradigm shift in
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management of these tumors because they
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grow rather slowly. Uh For example,
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this is another young female with
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the left frontal lobe tumor,
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well-defined nonenhancing uh turned out that
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this was an anaplastic astrocytoma.
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Uh IDH-mutated, one P19Q non-coordinated,
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undergoes surgery undergoes complete resection.
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This patient would have been offered
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temozolomide and radiation therapy,
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standard COOP regimen a few years ago,
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not anymore. Um You know,
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many of the neuro-oncologists will like to
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actually wait and watch if this tumor is
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completely uh resected. For example,
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this one was completely resected.
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They could even watch these tumors and will give
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chemo and radiation only when the recurrence
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occurs rather than going upfront
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with chemo and radiation.
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That's a little bit controversial but still a
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paradigm shift in how these tumors are treated.
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Now, another example over here,
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another IDH-mutated astrocytoma in grade two.
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This patient was diagnosed in 2003 was
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offered chemo radiation. In fact,
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the surgery happened in 2000 and,
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and was offered a radiation and temozolomide.
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The patient refused any chemo radiation at
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that point. And you can see, you know,
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10 years later, there is hardly any,
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any progression.
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All we see is a little bit increased signal
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along the ante margin of the surgical resection
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cavity, which was non-enhancing.
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Uh The management team decided to watch it, and
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this, this is what happens four years later,
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it's around 14 years after the initial diagnosis,
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actually 17 years after the initial diagnosis,
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you can see the tumor is now progressing.
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And that's when you know the,
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the chemo and radiation could be offered to
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these patients. So IDH mutated gliomas.
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They occur in younger patients.
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They're usually asymptomatic or maybe presenting
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with headaches or even seizures.
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They are usually large by the time, you know,
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because they have been growing
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very slowly over time.
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So they could become rather large
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when they present on imaging.
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Uh One another important aspect,
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IDH mutated gliomas,
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they somehow love the frontal lobe.
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Uh They could be partially
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or completely non-enhancing.
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They could have cysts and they
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usually have good prognosis.
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So I've shown you an oligodendroglioma.
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Uh We have discussed, you know, astrocytoma.
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Now, one caveat over here,
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not all the tumors imitated tumors which show
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calcification are gonna be oligodendroglioma.
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This is an example.
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This one turned out to be an astrocytoma
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showing some dystrophic calcification,
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not very common though. Now,
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one more uh tumor I would like to discuss over
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here is IDH mutated glioblastoma or grade four
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IDH mutated tumors. And this is an example.
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Um again, if you look at the age,
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this is a relatively younger patient.
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Uh right frontal lobe, again,
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IDH mutated gliomas,
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they prefer or they love the frontal
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lobe location. Uh Now,
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this is a large tumor showing some enhancement
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and central necrosis and there is massive
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edema, mild edema surrounding this tumor.
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But more importantly,
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this is a tumor despite showing this aggressive
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necrotic enhancing features also has
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a thick kind of non-enhancing tumor.
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If you look at this part of the tumor
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and this part of the tumor,
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it's non-enhancing once I see an appearance like
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that in a younger patient and especially a
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frontal lobe tumor. Uh of course, you know,
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based on histology,
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this turned out to be a GBM.
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But more importantly,
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this one turned out to be an IDH mutated GBM.
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So remember, from my previous discussions,
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you know, GBMs,
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majority of them are IDH wild type,
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except 5 to 7% of GBMs will
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have IDH mutation. And,
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and uh the reason uh these are good tumors to
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have. Uh this is an example over here,
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the patient underwent surgery, radiation,
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temozolomide, and DCVAX trial.
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And this is nine years later. You know,
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there is no recurrence.
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Uh there are some post-treatment effects but
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the patient actually is doing rather well.
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And this kind of fits into um the category
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I talked about the GBMs being good,
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bad, and mad and this is a good GBM to have,
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right?
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Uh These are IDH mutated GBMs which are gonna
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have a much better survival than
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IDH wild type glioblastoma.
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And uh knowing this fact,
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uh who has the C impact has come up with this
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update five, which includes a few other things.
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For example,
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uh the Arabic numerals are in and Roman
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numerals are out. For example, you know,
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the neuropathologist now will be calling
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it grade two in Arabic numerals,
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grade 234 rather than Roman numerals.
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This is to avoid any kind of confusion.
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There was one,
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the second thing uh this update uh uh suggested
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is that um IDH mutated astrocytoma,
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which are grade four,
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they should not be called glioblastoma just
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to separate them out from IDH wild type glioblastoma.
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Uh They will rather be called astrocytoma.
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IDH mutated grade four and a couple
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more uh important things.
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This update mentioned that these tumors could be
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upgraded from grade three to grade four based
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on either microvascular proliferation or
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necrosis seen on histopathology or homozygous
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deletion of CDKN2AB,
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which is also known as P16.
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This is an important tumor suppressor gene
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and we'll be discussing that a little bit more.
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So P16 is a very well-studied and very well
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known tumor suppressor gene implicated
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in multiple malignancies.
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And now also has been shown to be an important
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factor in IDH mutated astrocytoma. So,
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we know IDH mutated gliomas,
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IDH mutated astrocytoma,
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they do better than IDH wild type. Uh,
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but another important,
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think this very important paper showed, uh,
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that if you have a GBM,
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even if it's a grade four um astrocytoma, GBM,
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if you do not have P16 loss,
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P16 is intact on wild type.
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These GBMs actually do much better than GBMs
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with P16 loss, right? So that's very important.
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The other important thing,
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this paper showed that if you have,
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even though it's an anaplastic
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astrocytoma grade three,
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if you have an anaplastic astrocytoma
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with P16 loss,
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they actually behave almost similar to GBMs
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with P16 loss even worse than GBMs without
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P16 loss. So, what does that mean?
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Let me simplify that. So,
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in IDH mutated astrocytoma is another important
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thing to understand and it's,
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it is now part of the C impact upgrade five is P
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16 loss or CDKN2AB homozygous deletion.
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Uh you wanna know if that is um there or not?
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So if you have homozygous loss of P16,
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that's gonna do poorly, right?
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So this 5% these tumors should be classified as
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um grade four. And if you don't have P16 loss,
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the next thing,
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this this this group of researchers looked at
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its necrosis on histopathology
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and and of course,
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the tumors without necrosis are gonna do a
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little bit better than the tumors with necrosis.
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So, an example over here, um you know,
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a slightly younger patient with a
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non-enhancing large mass in
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the left temporal lobe,
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you can see that this mass is actually showing a
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T2 flare mismatch sign. Also, as we know this,
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this sign is seen in IDH astrocytoma.
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And the there there is another example I have in
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the lower panel, a similar age group patient,
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uh similar tumor in the left temporal lobe
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non-enhancing showing two flare mismatch sign.
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What is different between these two patients?
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The one in the upper row actually has
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a P16 loss. What does that mean?
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That means that's a bad tumor to have? So,
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despite looking very similar on imaging and also
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on histopathology and ID mutation status,
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uh you know, this one is doing much worse.
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Uh This patient comes back with a very
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aggressive looking recurrence within 30
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months and eventually ended up dying.
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Uh On the other hand,
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the one in the lower panel uh underwent
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surgery and therapy,
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chemo and radiation and this
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is eight-year follow-up.
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There is hardly um uh there there is no tumor
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recurrence and the patient is
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actually doing very well.
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And that's based on what we know from this,
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the impact upgrade five,
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that the tumors with P16 loss,
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even though they are imitated,
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they're gonna do worse than, uh,
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the ones with be with P16 intact.
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Another thing we understand is that, uh,
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many of these, I get mutated gliomas,
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they progress rather quickly to glioblastomas
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or secondary GBMs.
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And this is a study which showed that, uh,
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patients who uh have this quick progression
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from uh a lower grade glioma into a GBM.
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Uh These tumors actually show uh what we known
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as chromosomal intimate. This is, you know,
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chromosome profile,
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methylation profile done at the baseline
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and the recurrent tumor,
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you can see all these tumors
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when they reoccur uh they,
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they show a very high degree
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of chromosomal instability.
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And this is another important uh factor which uh
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another review article mentioned that, you know,
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uh that this chromosomal instability can
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negate the beneficial effects of IDH in,
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in IDH mutated astrocytoma.
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Um We have tried to correlate copy number,
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um variability with imaging and
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in IDH mutated astrocytoma.
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And we have shown over here in this paper
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is that uh IDH mutated astrocytoma,
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if they have P16 loss,
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they have a higher incidence of necrosis.
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There are larger tumors.
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Uh they also have restricted diffusion and more
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importantly, also have high blood volume,
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higher blood volume compared to the ones where
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the chromosome um variability is not that
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much or there is the chromosome.
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Um chromosomal um um component is
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much more stable in these cases.
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Uh Here is an example of two different patients,
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you know, um similar tumor imitated astrocytoma.
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Um The one in the upper row is a
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much smaller tumor non-enhancing.
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The one in the lower row is a much larger tumor
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with high blood volume and areas of restrict
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diffusion. And of course, you know,
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they have chromosomal profile,
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which looks like that.
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The one in the upper row is much more stable
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chromosomal profile compared to
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the one in the lower row.
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Uh We also looked at uh blood volume data and
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this is data we published from NYUTCGA and
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Heidelberg um showing that blood volume um on Mr
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perfusion would be high in tumors
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which have P16 loss.
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Whereas uh tumors which have P 16 intact,
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uh they have lower blood volume.
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And the same thing goes with
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the copy number profile,
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the tumors with uh higher chromosomal
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instability, they have high blood volume,
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high blood volume compared to the ones which
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have a stable uh chromosome uh pattern.
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Um Now, uh IDH mutated duo Blastoma,
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as I said, uh they could have uh you know,
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um a non-enhancing component to the tumor.
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Another example over here is a necrotic
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enhancing mass in the right occipital lobe.
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But if you look closely there is a tumor tissue
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which is showing you no enhancement along,
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especially along the lateral aspect.
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This is again,
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a tumor which is showing high blood volume in
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the enhancing portion of the tumor
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in a relatively younger patient.
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Uh This patient uh turned out undergoes surgery
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comes back as an IDH mutated glioblastoma. Why,
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why it's important because these
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IDH mutated glioblastoma,
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they um are gonna do better than
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IDH wild-type glioblastoma.
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Uh This patient undergoes complete
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resection and uh and,
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and this is a follow up uh a year later
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uh at the primary tumor site.
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But we also learned that this tumor actually
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had P16 loss. What does that mean?
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That makes this a little bit more aggressive
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than IDH mutated glioblastoma,
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which won't have a P16 loss. And,
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and that's what happens with this patient,
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you know,
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within a year uh after the initial diagnosis,
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patient comes back with a recurrence um in,
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in the right uh frontal horn in the frontal lobe
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region undergoes another resection. Uh and,
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and comes back with another quick progression uh
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a month later after the second surgery and,
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and continues to grow this tumor despite multiple
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therapy regimens, and then in fact,
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even starts to have a recurrence at the primary
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tumor site also and in and ends
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up doing rather poorly.
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So this is another example where IDH mutated
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astrocytoma, if they have P16 loss, you know,
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they will continue to do poorly.
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So this patient's uh primary tumor and,
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and the recurrent tumor,
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they were uh they were sent
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for uh methylation profile.
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And another thing uh we noticed uh based on the
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methylation profile and the
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tumor mutation burden.
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Uh you can see that the initial tumor uh had
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a lower tumor tumor mutation burden,
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uh which became really high, you know,
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from six mutations per megabyte to 70 tumi
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mutations per megabyte on the recurrent tumor.
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What does it?
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This means this means that tumors will develop
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chromosomal instability and very high mutation
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burden as uh they will become uh as they
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will uh uh progress and recur. Now,
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IDH mutated uh glioblastomas which are also
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known as secondary GBM. Uh uh they are,
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they could be large and as I said,
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they could have uh nonenhancing component
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in the tumor. Of course,
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they have a high blood volume in the enhancing
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portions. Uh But more importantly,
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uh unlike IDH wild type glioblastomas,
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which progress rather rather quickly.
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Uh This patient, we had a follow up.
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Uh we had a scan done six years earlier and you
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could see there was a small signal of normality
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which was actually uh not really called.
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Um But you can see this tumor has grown over a
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period of uh almost six years. And, and this,
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this, this is the, this is an example,
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you know that these IDH mutated tumors and,
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and even secondary GBM,
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they start as lower grade gliomas and slowly
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progress over time. Unlike IDH wild-type gliomas,
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which progress very quickly.
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So,
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are there any imaging features or imaging
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modalities which help us determine IDH mutation
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status of the dias preoperatively?
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Apart from the T2-FLAIR mismatch sign,
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we discussed is MR spectroscopy.
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As uh we know that IDH mutated tumors,
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they generate this on meta
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light called 2-hydroxy.
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And there are quite a few publications uh which
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discuss that I this 2-hydroxy glu uh could
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be detected with MR spectroscopy.
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And this is another example over here.
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Uh in 13 more patients,
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you can see that the 2-hydroxy glut trade
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signal has been detected on MR spectroscopy
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amongst the other metabolites. Now,
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this is probably one of the only ways you can
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diagnose an IDH mutated tumor uh preoperatively
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apart from the T2-FLAIR mismatch sign.
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Um but the problem with MR spectroscopy
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and 2-hydroxy glutarate detection,
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it is technically very challenging and it's not
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possible to use it in clinical practice.
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Uh At most places, including at NYU,
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we have been struggling with it.
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So let me summarize a few facts about
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IDH one and IDH two mutations,
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majority of the lower-grade dias and only 5% of
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the GB MS show IDH mutation. ID mutated
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dias occur in younger patients.
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IDH mutated dias tend to be far less aggressive
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than their who-grade match
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IDH Y-type counterparts.
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And uh one important thing we learned in the
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last few years is if we see this
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T2-FLAIR mismatch sign,
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it's almost 100% positive predictive value
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uh to detect IDH-mutated astrocytoma.
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But remember, not all astrocytomas show the sign,
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you know,
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around 15 to 20 or 22% of astrocytomas
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show this sign.
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Uh, another important factor to keep in
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mind is um uh IDH-mutated tumors.
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They love frontal lobe location.
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