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Her history was a 35-year-old high-risk
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female presented with a calculated
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lifetime risk of 32%.
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In the states and by American Cancer
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Society, um, white paper way back
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in 2007, but it hasn't changed.
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Anybody with a calculated lifetime risk
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above 20 percent is in fact eligible
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for, um, high-risk breast cancer,
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uh, breast MR, uh, cancer screening.
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So we, um, I, um, the anatomy
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is not the T1 pre or not pre.
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Are not particularly helpful in this
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case, although it is a lovely example.
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I'll show it to you.
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It's a lovely example of bad field of view.
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You should not have more than half of
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your screen occupied by the air in front
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of the patient or in this case beneath.
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Remember, these are prone in the air around
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the patient and the lungs themselves.
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So this is a, it is a nice example.
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The T1 pre's of, um, of, uh.
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Uh, bad field of view.
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Um, it's also a really nice
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example of dense breast.
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So I do think the T1 pre's again, I don't
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mean to be focused on them wholly, but
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the T1 pre non-fat set give you a really
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nice estimation of the breast, the amount
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of breast parenchyma, the breast density
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analog, and that is required in all reports.
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At least here in the States.
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Okay.
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So, that being said, you can also also
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get a hint already of what a problem is
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going to be in this case, which is that
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her breasts are seemingly quite asymmetric.
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It's not the case, but that they
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certainly are projecting asymmetrically.
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So, then I'm going to go on now
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to the subtracted image.
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Part of the reason I'm going to go
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over this in the manner that I am.
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Oh, 1 more thing.
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One more thing for the A relatively newer MR.
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48 00:01:47,770 --> 00:01:50,500 interpreter get to know what machine
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and or what platform is going to be
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presented to you and work through
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that or rearrange that to your liking.
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From my perspective, I find it much easier
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to, um, to assure that my images are
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flipped anatomic, as if I'm reading a CT
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or other cross-sectional imaging, and if
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I, as if I am, um, uh, starting at the,
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at, uh, cranial and scanning caudate.
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Other people, uh, many platforms actually
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scan from, um, bottom to top and, um, display.
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Prone, but I assure that each time I
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review, um, I'm reviewing in that manner.
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And so this is the way we're going to review it.
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This is anatomic and we're starting at the top.
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This case stumped many of you.
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I've already corrected your case 3
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submissions and uploaded them to Olivia, but.
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This case seemed to stump most of you actually.
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And so I just wanted to point out that
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there was a lot of focus on this, um,
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apparent non-mass enhancement bilaterally.
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Um, and let's go ahead and
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just dispense with that.
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This is normal picture framing.
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It's very pronounced in this case, and it is,
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um, oddly asymmetric, which can definitely
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be, um, the confusing and confounding.
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Um.
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Uh, which is kind of all the more reason
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I was happy that we had, um, at the
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time of my, um, learners had read it
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out at UNC wrongly and had read it
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as diagnostic and had called her back.
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Well, or had called it by rights
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for as did many of you, by the way.
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So, um, welcome to breast, breast fellowship,
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I suppose, because that's exactly how it was
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read by our fellows and upper-level residents.
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But, um, the, the thing that's actually
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more important and of significance
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is that you can tell that the coil
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is actually pinching the left breast.
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The nipple is not dangling freely.
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It's not positioned symmetric
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with the right side at all.
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And so, honestly, the impingement
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of the coil related to
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breast placement in the coil may be exactly
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why, um, it looked like it was asymmetric.
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And it may when in point of fact,
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it's just normal picture framing.
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And so there are three points
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I want to make about this case.
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Um, number one, we want to emphasize
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the need for correct positioning.
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The breast should be as symmetric, especially
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if they are not post-therapy in any manner or
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have not been surgically altered in any manner.
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And this was a young woman
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who had never had surgery.
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And so she was just, she should
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have been positioned symmetrically
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and should look symmetric.
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And, as you know, in the follow-up
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scan that we did on her, she did those
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images, I think, have already been
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provided to you the field of view issue.
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There's just nothing but air gap and
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wasted information from here from here up.
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Uh, and from here down on each image
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that I realize that's not anatomic the
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way she was positioned, but and then
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lastly, the picture framing and, um, let
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me just remind you what picture frame.
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It's a great, um, it's a great and very
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common, particularly in young patients, um,
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in young patients, uh, high-risk screening MRI.
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R.
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S.
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So the, um, so it is a form of, um,
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background parenchymal enhancement.
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It relates to the normal
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arterial inflow of the breast.
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It is at the periphery of the breast,
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and because of the way many breasts are
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scanned, um, it just so happens that either
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the superior quadrants or the inferior
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quadrants will be the ones that asymmetrically
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fill in from the periphery.
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It is also true that both inferiorly
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and superiorly the breast,
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fill in from the periphery.
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And so in some instances, you really
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do have a bonafide picture frame,
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and in other instances, as in this case,
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um, you kind of have to use
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your imagination. But you begin to see,
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in particular, um, two sides of a picture frame,
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and particularly if you saw it on the left
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side, um, as well, which you probably would
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have, were it not for the fact that the coil
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is pinching her and, um, impeding inflow.
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I don't think it would have
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stumped as many of you as it did.
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We would have had far fewer indicators
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as abraded for the right breast had the
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left breast been appropriately positioned.
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And so in essence, it's a benign pattern of vascular inflow.
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Enhancement is a type of
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background parenchymal enhancement, but
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it is very specifically called
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picture framing, and it must indeed be
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distinguished from a non-mass enhancement.
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So that's it.
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Those are the 3 teaching points for this case.
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I'll just, in terms of time, refer you back to
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part 2 of this case.
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So this should be a byproduct.
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Excuse me, technical repeat hardly ever
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have byproduct zeros in breast.
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We don't use them at all when the
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study is deemed to be diagnostic,
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but additional imaging is needed.
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But in this case, it was a repeat
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technical repeat that was needed.
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And so that's it.
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So, positioning, field of view, and one.
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Any questions?
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Just a quick question
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about the, um, about the technical repeat.
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That was because of the positioning, not
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because of the picture framing, correct?
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Correct.
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That was because of field
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of view and positioning.
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Honestly, more positioning and
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pinching and impeding of the left
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breast than the field of view.
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I think honestly, I think he
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can work around field of views.
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It's annoying, and you know, you have
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to reframe virtually every sequence
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to assure that you get that distracting,
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detracting black around it out of the
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way by zooming all of the sequences.
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It's annoying, but it's not,
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it doesn't, it doesn't pose a barrier
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per se to the to the to the MR.
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201 00:08:08,820 --> 00:08:11,950 Imaging itself, whereas the impingement
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of the left breast and, um, and, um, how,
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um, oddly, um, oddly positioned it was
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and also the impingement of enhancement
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or the possible impingement of enhancement
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in the left breast reduces the sensitivity
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of, um, screening for that left breast.
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That makes sense.
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Yes, thank you.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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These are great.
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Am I, um, am I at a clip and at a, uh,
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is this to the participants liking?
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Is this to the scholars' liking?
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I mean, that's my main question.
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I'm here to serve you and.
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I want to make sure that I'm
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speaking clearly, that I'm covering
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topics that you think are germane.
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There are several.
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Oh, one thing.
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I didn't want to say there are several
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positioning and other technical issues
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that you should familiarize yourself with.
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And the great news is that
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they are so it's so easy.
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There are two, these are all these book goodies.
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There are two radiographics articles
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that are, um, that are commended to
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you at the end of the gold standard
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report for Case 5 to Radiographics.
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They're both in 2007.
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Active links were provided
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to, um, to all of you.
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And so one is Jen Harvey's, you know, she's
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a dean now, her article, and one is Mary Mary
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Mahoney, who is a chair now, her article.
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So there are two of them.
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The references are numbers 1 and 4.
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That are listed on the gold standard and
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honestly, I don't even think you need
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to read the articles, but by all means,
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pick the Radiographics articles up.
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And they are, as you all, as you
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all probably know, um, uh, designed
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to have, um, good illustrations.
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And so most of the issues and how to
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solve them are very well illustrated.
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So I commend those two to you.
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