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All right, so let's go on to the next case.
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This is case three. So this is another patient,
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middle aged, mid 60s male who presented with chest pain and also had a
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CTPA for rule out of PE and this is the scan.
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Big right heart and some reflux. You can see that's a little bit
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of an incidental finding. I'll just come slowly through here. The right
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lower lobe is our area of concern. I'll put that on long windows.
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All right, so we have question three. So when you have an area
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of low bar consolidation, which finding would make neoplasm most likely?
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An occluded bronchus, full area of hypo enhancement or speculated margins?
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Great. So yes, I agree. An occluded bronchus is the most
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specific find. Often we will have an area of hypo enhancement, but as
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we saw in the last case, we could also see that in pneumonia.
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So if we look at this case, there's obviously
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a fairly large effusion and there's collapse in the right lower lobe.
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And then going through here, we see this area of low density and
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following the airway here, we can see that it
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abruptly terminates in the soft tissue of this area of low density.
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I'm not sure, I think this area of low density was discussed and
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it was suggested that the patient had a pneumonia. And then the patient
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came back, and let me just put up
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the next part of this. So this was
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a little bit later and you can see now this is a little
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bit of a different phase, a little bit of a later phase,
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which I prefer when looking at lung. You can see that the lung parenchyma
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is enhancing much more and we don't have all that bright contrast from
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the CTPA. And again, we're seeing this bronchus come down
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and become occluded by this mass. I agree that
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speculated margins isn't really that helpful. I think we see speculations
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long and short in a number of settings, both inflammatory and neoplastic.
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I couldn't just use that term very sparingly.
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And in this case, now what we see are these bronchi filled with
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fluid. Some call this brown lung because the bronchi are occluded and can
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no longer drain, and so fluid just backs up into that area of
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lung. And so this was indeed a malignancy. And if we go to
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the final one, you can see he did have a pet in the
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end, and it hadn't really grown that much. It did take a little
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while to diagnose this cancer with thinking initially it was pneumonia,
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but it wasn't a particularly fast growing cancer. And this was an SCC,
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I believe, yeah, it was a screen cell carcinoma on histology.
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So I personally will look very carefully for occluded bronchi, and particularly
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the more centrally they are occluded. And when they suddenly abruptly
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stop, and I'm not seeing mucus in them, I'm just no longer seeing
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them. Similar to the way we might see a vessel occluded elsewhere in
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the body by a cancer where it just simply
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is compressed from like extrinsic compression and disappears. I find that
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to be a very specific sign from malignancy. And I can't think of
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a time when I've seen that when it's been incorrect. And so I'll
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usually lean very heavily on that and say, you know, you need to
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work this up for cancer now rather than
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wait or get follow up because I find that just simply delays.
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Okay, so I have a companion to this one.
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Just to look at this a little bit
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more. So this is another case of a malignancy. This is a sarcoma plagued
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carcinoma, a little bit of an unusual histology in the right upper lobe.
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And as we come up, we can see, maybe there's what might look
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like a little bit of inflammatory change, but really the margin of the
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lesion is fairly sharp with these lobulated borders. And again, we've got
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an occluded bronchus so that if you know your bronchial segments,
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then we have our apical and posterior segments that are kind of escaping
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around the mass, but our anterior segment is gone.
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And so I would be quite certain that this was going to be
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a malignancy rather than a round pneumonia with adjacent inflammation because
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of that occluded bronchus. Another companion, actually, I'll just
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show you this part two. I thought this was
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another way to look at this. If you're not as comfortable with your
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bronchial segments, you know, this one had a prior, you can see this is
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just a year before. This was a very aggressive cancer that developed,
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but we can see our middle lobe and our lower lobe and then
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coming up and we see this beautiful anterior segment on the prior and
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on the current that has disappeared, right? So you can use your prior
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to sort of cheat and say, okay, was there a bronchus there that
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is no longer present? And I find that can sometimes be helpful.
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And then my next companion case for this one is here.
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Now, here we have a CT without contrast, and I think,
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after I've shown a few with the contrast, you can see how
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the absence of contrast, it certainly makes me feel like I've got less
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information than I like to have when looking at these. And we've got
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a left lower lobe atelectasis or it's actually completely collapsed. If
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I go to lung windows here, sorry, my notepad shortcuts are not working
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and we'll have a faster way to do that.
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So we can see that the left upper lobe is completely aerated and
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then the left lower lobe is completely collapsed. Now, you know, and so
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the first thing you think, well, this is an older individual,
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and is this collapse because of obstruction? I'm not really seeing airways.
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I'm not seeing air all the way through the airways, or is it
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simply atelectasis? And I guess, for me, I favored atelectasis in this case
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mainly because I can still see air in distal bronchi. And as we
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come up, most of this looks a little bit like
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mucus in the airway. It's not an airway that's just absolutely vanished.
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Yes, it sort of disappears here, but it
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looks like some air is getting through. And I'm not seeing a rounded mass
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like area. I'd be a lot more comfortable if there was contrasting board
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to make sure that there was no hypo enhancing lesion in there.
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But this did turn out to be simple atelectasis, and
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with a little chest therapy the lung came up and
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was well aerated in the future.
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