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Hello and welcome to Noon Conference hosted by MRI Online. In response to
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the changes happening around the world right now and the shutting down of
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in person events, we have decided to provide free Noon Conferences to all
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radiologists worldwide. Today, we are joined by Dr. Juan Carlos Batlle.
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Dr. Batlle is the Chief of Thoracic Imaging for Baptist Health South Florida
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and Miami Cardiac and Vascular Institute, as well as Associate Professor
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at FIU College of Medicine. He serves as Cardiac MR Course Director for
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the American College of Radiology Education Center. A reminder that there
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will be a Q&A session at the end of the lecture,
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so please use the Q&A feature to ask your questions and we will
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get to as many as we can before our time is up.
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That being said, thank you all for joining us today. Dr.
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Batlle, I'll let you take it from here. Hopefully, everyone can see my
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screen. Thank you for the kind introduction and hopefully, this is helpful
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for you. I'll kind of get into the meat of it because we
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do have a lot of material and I'd like to be able to
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answer your questions. So as mentioned, I do co teach. I'm the Director
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for the Cardiac MR Course at the ACR.
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This year, most of it has been canceled, but we are anticipating October
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15 through 17. So this is kind of
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a taste for what would be offered in person in Reston, Virginia,
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and Northern Virginia at that course. The first cardiac MRI that was published
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was about 40 years ago now. And you can see from the images
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below that it was relatively low resolution, but it was ECG gated. So
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we did still the motion of the heart in the so called black blood
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technique, showing that you could see chamber sizes and anatomical abnormalities.
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But we really didn't get a precise look at the heart and contrast
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that with the 21 Tesla MRI on the upper right of a rat
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heart. This is here in Florida at a research lab and a research
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magnet, not a human sized magnet, showing that we can really exquisitely
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demonstrate the myocardial architecture at the fiber level with MRI and
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do tractography. So we've come a really long way. And so I'm going to try
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to pitch in the middle for something where we are clinically relevant,
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things that we're doing today, and to give you a flavor of the
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kind of entities that we commonly interact with in cardiac MRI.
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First thing, we use a standard MRI machine, that's our Philips Achieva 1.5T.
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You don't need a special magnet. Really the coils that you'd like are
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kind of the 16 32 channel coils for better coverage of the heart
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and better sensitivity. We do ECG gate, and sometimes we do add respiratory
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gating so you can add a bellows to the abdomen so that you
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can see if the chest is excursing or not. This is an example
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of our 32 and 5 channel coils. We use 32 whenever possible,
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5 channel is for smaller patients, pediatric, or patients where the 32 channel
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wouldn't fit for whatever reason due to the geometry of the patient interacting
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with the magnet. We're looking to gate to the ECG cycle,
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and one of the challenges there is, you have a very small amount
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of time to image the heart and still the beating of the heart.
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So if you imagine an RR interval being one heartbeat,
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you want to kind of... Those little blue bars kind of give you
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the idea of when we're collecting data. Whether it's CT or MRI,
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you've got the shutter open like a camera for a certain amount of
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time, and the longer you leave that shutter open, the more blur there
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is because, of course, as you go from one R wave to the
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next R wave, the heart is moving and then returning to its initial
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state. So the more your shutter is open, the more of that movement
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you capture, and therefore you're not getting a focal end diastolic image.
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You're getting a mid to late diastolic image or an early to late
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diastolic image if you leave it open. So that's our challenge in cardiac
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imaging. And one of the things that we do to address that is,
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segmented acquisition of K space. We generally are not looking to acquire
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all of the K space for one slice in one heartbeat. What we
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do is we get bits of the cardiac cycle at a time.
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And so we construct, in this image, you can see the upper half
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of the image, the interior part of the image.
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We get that in earlier portion of the cardiac phase and systole.
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And then instead of trying to get that same slice of the heart,
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the entire image to get the posterior, instead, we just wait a little
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bit and get that same anterior slice. Again, we segment K space to
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only get enough lines of K space so that we aren't widening that
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shutter opening. We're not taking too much time to acquire that image and
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creating blur. And then after multiple heartbeats, you can fill in the posterior
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parts. Here on the second heartbeat, we're getting the second eight lines
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of K space that fill in that posterior part of the image in
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the systolic frame. And then we wait a little bit and get the
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posterior slice of the later systolic or the diastolic frame.
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That can be a challenge with high heart rates where you have less
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time to image and the heart moves faster in the same amount of
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time. But we do have other approaches to that, I'm not going to
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get too far into the physics of our protocols.
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Cardiac planes are different from the ones that you're used to.
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So we go from axial scouts to more cardiac type planes.
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So we'll drop a plane parallel to the septum going down the barrel
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of the left ventral to get what we call kind of a pseudo
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two chamber view. The two chambers being the left atrium and the left
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ventricle. It's not quite the two chamber view that we'd like because we
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have to tilt it in the other plane. And so how do we
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accomplish that? Well, we take that pseudo two chamber view and we get
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a line that's perpendicular to the septum this time.
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And that gets us, again, a pseudo short axis view. And these beating
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heart images are bright blood, steady state free precession images is the
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generic term. You may have heard terms like FIESTA or true FISP. Each
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vendor has its own different way to name these, so it can be
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challenging. And so a bright blood cinematic or SSFP image is kind of
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the generic term for that. We're able to see the heart contract and
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the walls move, the size of the chamber and so forth.
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From that pseudo short axis view, we can get to a true four
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chamber view. So we're starting to add some cardiac images, cardiac planes.
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And here we have a nice four chamber view from which we can
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then generate a true short axis. So we get images that are,
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again, perpendicular to the septum. We go all the way up and down
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and then we get a short axis view, ultimately getting something like this.
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In this case, nine images showing the beating of the heart from about
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the valve plane, the atrioventricular valve plane to the apex. And we can
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evaluate the heart at any of those levels. So that's the goal of
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your cinematic images. And then we'll get some tissue characterization images
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as well. One special note is to talk about dephasing. So the bright blood
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images, when the blood doesn't look too bright in the bottom light,
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in the bottom...
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