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We're going to move on now to, uh, we talked about
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anatomy, we talked about technique, now we're
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going to jump into actually looking at the cases.
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As I mentioned right at the onset, you have a template.
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It's important you follow the template,
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you answer the questions on the template.
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What I'm going to try and do with these cases
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is sort of run over some of the key points
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that you need to keep in mind when you're
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filling in specific questions on the template.
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Talk about a few of the adverse prognostic
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indicators that you need to be aware of.
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And again, they're all mentioned in the
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template, but you just need to reemphasize
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some of these adverse prognostic factors.
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And then, you know, each of these cases
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have a specific point in terms of making
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sure that you, you, you pay attention to.
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And so here is, um, a relatively young
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patient who comes in with rectal bleeding.
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Like I said before, I sit down to read, I need to
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make sure that this patient has, without any doubt,
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biopsy-proven rectal cancer, which the patient does.
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And so now we have been asked to stay because
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based on what we see on MR, the patients
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essentially get put into two buckets.
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The first bucket is those patients that can go directly
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to surgery, and then the second bucket is where they
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typically get neoadjuvant chemoradiation to shrink
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the cancer and then bring the patient to therapy now.
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The neoadjuvant chemoradiation
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treatment paradigm is changing.
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There are, you know, various components in
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terms of short course or long course radiation
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in terms of giving the amount of chemotherapy.
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And we don't need to dwell on that.
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Suffice it to say is there are certain key elements on
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imaging that will put the patient into the bucket of
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getting neoadjuvant chemoradiation prior to surgery.
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And so, as I said, the first
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sequence you look at is the sagittal.
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That gives you a good sense of whether
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the relevant anatomy has been covered.
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And it also gives you a good
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sense of where the tumor is.
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So the first thing we're going to try and do is,
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as you can see, here is a midline sort of image,
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and you can see the tumor is right in here.
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And the question is, where is the tumor?
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And as I said, the rectum is a part of
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the GI tract, which spans 15 centimeters.
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And for the sake of convenience, we divide
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the 15 centimeters into the lower five, the
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middle five, and the upper five centimeters.
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And so if the tumor is in the lower five centimeters,
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it's low rectal cancer; if the tumor is in the mid,
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mid five, it's mid rectal cancer; and if the tumor
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is in the upper five, it's upper rectal cancer.
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Uh, the way you want to do that is you kind
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of measure the distance from the anal verge.
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So that's what we're going to try and do here.
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So here you can see it's about roughly
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about 10 centimeters from the anal verge,
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and that puts the tumor in the upper
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rectum, upper to mid rectum, if you will.
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And so that's where the cancer is.
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So you give them the distance from the
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anal verge, then that kind of gives
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them an idea of where the tumor lies.
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The next thing you want to do is after you do that
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is you give them the actual length of the tumor.
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And so what we're going to try and do is sort
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of measure the tumor to the best of our ability.
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And this tumor measures roughly about 4.3 cm.
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76 00:03:23,070 --> 00:03:24,940 And that's the next measurement that you do.
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Now comes the most important part, is
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to look at the staging of the tumor.
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So we start with the T staging.
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And if you have a tumor that is confined
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to the submucosa, that's T1 cancer.
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If the tumor goes to the muscularis but does not go beyond
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the muscularis into the adjacent fat, that's T2 tumor.
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And then T3 tumor is when the tumor goes through
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the wall into the adjacent mesorectal fat.
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And T4 tumor is when it goes through the fat,
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invades adjacent organs like the prostate in
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this instance, or the pelvic sidewall musculature,
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or the levator muscle.
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Now, a couple of points to emphasize
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is we on MR are not able to distinguish
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reliably between T1 and T2 tumors.
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And one should not make an attempt because
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if you try and do that, you may make errors.
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And sometimes the surgeons will try and force
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you to do that because, you know, T1 tumors
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can be managed with an endoanal excision,
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whereas T2 tumors require mesorectal excision.
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So, that's, again, we don't, we, we can
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do a good job with MR, so we, we shouldn't
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be even trying to make the distinction.
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The key is, on MR, is what they're looking
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mainly is to see if there is tumor extension
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beyond the, so here is the muscular layer, the
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dark signal. Is it going beyond the muscularis?
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Is it clearly sort of involving the muscle, uh,
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because you lose the dark layer posteriorly here.
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But the question is, am I extending
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beyond that or is it T3 cancer?
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Because once you have T3 cancer, that then puts
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the patient in the treatment paradigm of getting
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neoadjuvant chemoradiation prior to surgery.
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So, as I alluded to earlier, it can be a
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challenge in terms of looking at, uh, true
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axial images and providing the information, and
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you need to make sure you look at the oblique
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axial images to see what's going on.
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When I typically look at this on my PACS monitor, I
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usually have all the planes of the T2 on a single
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monitor, so it's four on one, where I have the
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sagittal, the coronal, the true axial, and the
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oblique axial, and I'm cross-correlating as I go
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along to get a good sense of what the tumor is doing.
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So here is the oblique axial image, and
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you can see that I'm showing you the
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outline of the tumor in this instance.
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And as we scroll through, you can see that
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there clearly are nubbin-like projections
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right here, which are extending into the
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mesorectal fat as well as right here.
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And so, seeing that, you can say with a, you
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know, high level of certainty that the tumor
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not only is involving the wall of the rectum,
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but it extends beyond the mesorectal fat.
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fat.
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So this is mesorectal fat extension.
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So this is a T3 tumor.
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When you have a T3 tumor, what you need
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to tell them is how much of an extent beyond
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the muscularis is the tumor going into the
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fat, because it has been shown that T3 tumors
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that extend beyond five millimeters into the
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mesorectal fat typically have a cancer-specific
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five-year mortality of approximately 50%.
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Whereas if it is less than five millimeters,
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the five-year survival exceeds 85%.
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And so what you want to do is, if you look
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at the template, it kind of tells you to distinguish
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if you have a T3 tumor, you have to tell them, is it
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T3A, which is extension of less than one millimeter?
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Is it T3B, which is one to five millimeters, or is
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it T3C, which is greater than five to 15 millimeters,
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and T3D, which is more than 15 millimeters.
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So that is the level I'm looking at, and as you can
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see as I cross-correlate the area where we found the
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slight nubbin that is projecting anteriorly, that is
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right in this location, and it gives, it's sort of
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easier to measure it on sagittal than it is on the
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oblique, and so we'll go ahead and measure that,
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and that is about, you know, I would say 5 millimeters.
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And so this would be a T3B if, in case it's,
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I'm over-measuring it, if it's around five
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millimeters, that's what it would be around.
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And so, as I mentioned earlier, it's essentially the
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five millimeters is the important sort of landmark.
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If it is less than five, the prognosis is better
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versus greater than five, the prognosis is worse.
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So then you may ask me, well, if it's five
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millimeters, why don't we just have a T3
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that is less than five and more than five?
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Why do we have A, B, C, and D?
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Where A is less than 1, B is 1 to 5, C
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is 5 to 15, and D is greater than 15.
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The reason for that is at some institutions,
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and mainly in Europe, if it is less than
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5 millimeters, they want to know if it is less than
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1 or greater than 1, because if it is less than 1, 178 00:08:17,909 --> 00:08:20,999 they treat it as a T2 disease and actually go
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and do a mesorectal excision and have favorable
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outcomes, whereas if it is more than that, then they
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think about doing neoadjuvant chemo-radiation.
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So it's sort of mainly a treatment
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based issue in terms of staging the T3.
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But the important point to keep in
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mind is from a prognostication purpose, it
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is five millimeters is the cutoff
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in terms of looking at five-year survival.
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But when you're actually dictating it and
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are using the template, you will see it as
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A, B, C, and D in terms of looking at T3.
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So that's sort of the most important point.
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193 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,620 And then obviously, if it extends beyond
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15 millimeters, you try and see if there
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is involvement of the mesorectal fascia.
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You try and see if there's involvement of the,
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of the peritoneal reflection, none of which are present,
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obviously, because this is only about 4 millimeters
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or 4 and a half millimeters extension beyond.
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You look for any lymph nodes and we'll
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be talking about when you call nodes
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positive, which is not the case here.
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And where do you look for the lymph nodes?
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And then the last thing you obviously look for is, uh,
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to see if there is any synchronous or any additional
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lesion, which you don't see in this instance.
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So, uh, so those are some of
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the key points to keep in mind.
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Uh, in this case, this is a, uh, T3, uh, uh,
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B-lesion, uh, where there is extension beyond the wall.
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And the extension is, uh, uh, less than five.
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Hence, it is T3B.
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There are no suspicious nodes.
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There is also, I'm looking closely on the oblique axial.
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On the sagittal.
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I can see the normal flow voids in the vessels.
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So there is no clear involvement of
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the perirectal venous plexus, which is
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again an important point to keep in mind.
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