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Okay, this is a 71-year-old imaged
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at 3 Tesla with a body array coil.
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Let's scroll the axial.
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There's an obvious mass in the left PZL, PZP,
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and PZM, lateral, posterior,
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and medial, with transcapsular extension
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invading the left neurovascular bundle
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on the axial T2 FASP and echo image.
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I'm going to give you some ancillary
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findings, which you'll see in the report.
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If you choose to click on it, the patient
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said bilateral inguinal hernia repairs.
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There's actually a screw in the left hip,
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which you'll see when you review, uh,
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the images as we scroll through them.
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I'm not really concerned with it.
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It's on the film edge.
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But I won't completely give you or pass off
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these inguinal nodes because of their plumpness.
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The fact that they don't have any fat in them.
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There's certainly one on the right and
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there's one on the film edge on the left.
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So that's an issue that might have to
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be revisited, uh, should we have time.
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So now as we continue to scroll, um,
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I'm going to focus on three things.
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I'm gonna, I'm gonna focus on
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the T staging of this case.
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I'm gonna focus on D C M R I, D C E M R
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I, Dynamic Contrast Enhanced MRI when it's
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useful, which is usually with small areas of
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micro-invasion, very small tumors, and also
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in determining whether a tumor is highly
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aggressive or not based on its curve analysis.
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And then finally, I'm gonna
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take you through a checklist
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of things that have to be evaluated when you
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have a tumor that appears to extend outside
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of the prostate gland and is aggressive.
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And I'll probably give you a little kicker at
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the end, that I'm going to show you a PI-RADS 3
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lesion as part of this nasty PI-RADS 5 lesion.
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So, the third point, the checklist.
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We've already seen that this tumor
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is extending out of the capsule.
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So what else do we want to know?
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Is it invading the rectum?
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Answer:
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No.
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Close to it though.
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Is it invading the bladder neck?
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I think perhaps a sagittal
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would be better to assess that.
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And it's protruding up into
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the base of the bladder.
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But it doesn't appear to invade the bladder.
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But you have to at least alert the physician
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that that potential might be present.
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So I'd say the jury's still
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out on bladder neck invasion.
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What about the preprostatic
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space of the retzius and the apex?
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Not involved.
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How about the skeleton?
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Well, let's go over to our contrast-enhanced
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MRI, which is kind of like a bone scan.
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And we see that the left ischium is lighting up.
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It's enhancing.
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So we have, basically, a complementary
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free bone scan from our dynamic contrast-
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enhanced and delayed contrast MRI.
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So the bones are positive.
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What about adenopathy?
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Let's go back to our axial projection.
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Gonna slide back over here.
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And check out the regional lymph nodes.
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So we already said we thought there
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was a suspicious lymph node in the right
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inguinal and probably left inguinal region.
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There's another very plump lymph node in the back.
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Okay.
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Posteriorly, and then in the coronal
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projection, this is a fat-suppressed
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coronal projection right there.
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That is not a vessel.
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There's a vessel next to it.
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There are paired large lymph nodes in the
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iliac chain, the lower one approaching
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the obturator chain on the left.
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And on our fat-suppressed image
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there again is our bony metastasis.
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And then finally the last portion of our checklist
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is the seminal vesicle, which the reader not
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inappropriately said she thought was normal.
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So there is tumor right next to the base of the
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seminal vesicle, but is there microinvasion?
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I think that's really hard to tell
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without some additional sequences.
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Let's look at this coronal
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heavily fat-suppressed image.
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Let's look at our tumor.
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Here's our tumor, and here's
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the base of the seminal vesicle.
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Now this, this side's a little
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more smudgy than that side.
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Is that enough to say that there's
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seminal vesicle microinvasion?
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Well, maybe not.
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But how about our DCE MRI?
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Let's take a look at it on the right.
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This is one of our delayed
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images from the DCE MRI.
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And look at the base of the left seminal vesicle.
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Let's go to the seminal vesicle right there.
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There's the base.
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And I think you'd all agree that that
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is busier and brighter on the left side.
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And it is on the right side.
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Let's go to something more dynamic.
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Let's go right to the seminal vesicle again.
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The tumor's gonna be obvious.
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There's the obvious hypervascular tumor.
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Go right to the base of the
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seminal vesicle, right there.
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Oh yeah.
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No question about it.
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At the base of the seminal vesicle,
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let's go right to the base.
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Oh, right there.
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Right at the base of the seminal
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vesicle, there's tumor microinvasion.
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And that whole side demonstrates
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some amorphous enhancement.
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So the dynamic DCE MRI showed us micro
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invasion at the base of the seminal vesicle.
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So we've got bone, we've got seminal vesicle,
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we've got lymphadenopathy, and we've got
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transcapsular extension with invasion of the
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neurovascular bundle as part of our checklist.
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Now, let's talk about DCEMRI for a minute.
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It is a supplementary tool.
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We're moving away from it for
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screening and surveillance.
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It's time-consuming.
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It's somewhat expensive.
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It's expensive.
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And it doesn't add a lot in the general
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surveillance and detection of cancer.
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Perhaps with two to three-millimeter
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cancers, it adds a little value.
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But other than that, its role is in
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aggressiveness and microinvasion.
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But when can you get false negatives with DCEMRI?
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In a lot of the same circumstances,
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you get them with diffusion imaging.
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For instance, let's pull down
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the diffusion image in this case.
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Let's pull this one down.
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It's bright, but it's not as bright as you
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would expect it to be for this aggressive.
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Thank you.
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Hypervascular transcapsular tumor.
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So what can cause that?
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Well, if a tumor was lower grade, it
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wouldn't be as diffusion-restricted.
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But if the patient has had antiandrogen therapy,
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an androgen blocker, as this patient has, then
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that would diminish not only the diffusion,
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but also the DCEMRI even more prominently.
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Radiation is a common cause
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of altering the diffusion characteristics
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and DCEMRI properties of a tumor.
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Biopsy can change it.
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And then, there are certain technical factors
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that can alter the characteristics of DCEMRI
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and diffusion imaging, including a balloon,
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by compressing the tissue, air in the rectum,
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near-field artifacts, and even pulsation
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can contribute to alteration, technical
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alterations, in those characteristics.
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Now, let's T stage it.
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So we said we were going to do the list.
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We did the list.
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We said we were going to talk about DCEMRI
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and what can limit it and where it's valuable.
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We've done that.
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Let's T stage it.
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This T stage, as you might have seen in the title,
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is an N3, uh, it's a T3A, sorry, a T3A N1 M1B.
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So what does N1?
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N1 means there is regional lymphadenopathy.
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We've already pointed that out.
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At least one large cluster of nodes
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in the external and obturator chain.
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What about the M1?
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Well, this is an M1B, B for bone,
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because there's bony metastases.
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There are no distant metastases, non-bony,
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which would take us into the M1C category.
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And there is transcapsular extension,
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so that takes us into the T3 category.
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So this is a T3A, N1, M1B lesion.
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Now we said as a kicker, we would
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show you a PI RADS 3 lesion.
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This clearly is not one.
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This is a PI RADS 5 with transcapsular extension.
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But right there, look at your peripheral zone.
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Your peripheral zone should be bright.
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It shouldn't have this sort of charcoal,
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ill defined like area of signal alteration.
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I think it's a good time to
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look at the, the DCE MRI.
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Let's go right to the first image.
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And there really isn't much vascularity there.
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Is it diffusion restricted?
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Let's check that out.
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It is a little diffusion restricted.
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So there's some minor diffusion restriction.
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The lesion is non mass like.
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It's ill defined.
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It has no, no borders to it.
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It's bulging very little,
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maybe a tiny bit laterally.
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So it's kind of a tweener lesion.
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So, in the peripheral zone, a score of 3
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would be given to a peripheral lesion that
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is heterogeneous or non-circumscribed.
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It can be a little bit round.
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The hypointensity isn't tremendous.
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It's moderate, and it doesn't really fit into a 2.
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A 4 or a 5.
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And in this case, the diffusion
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restriction was very modest.
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Let's look at the ADC map
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and see what that looks like.
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The ADC map changes were also very modest.
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So again, a tweener type lesion on a
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right in the middle doesn't meet great
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criteria for a 4 or a 5, doesn't meet
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great criteria for a 2, it's obviously not
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a 1 because a 1 would be totally normal.
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So we would PI-RADS 3 that lesion, and we
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would direct the biopsy, the second biopsy,
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to that locus if it was clinically appropriate.
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So that concludes this case.
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We talked about T staging, we talked
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about the value and the limitations of
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DCEMRI, and we went through our checklist.
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Of key areas to evaluate in a case like
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this that's more aggressive, that's more
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extensive, and we gave you a little kicker,
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showing you a second lesion in the right
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PZL at about the mid-level of the prostate,
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mid-gland, that corresponds to a PI-RADS 3.
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