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Dr. Finazzo, let's introduce one of the tools
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3 00:00:03,420 --> 00:00:06,300 in MRI, which is the analysis of fat on MR.
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And I've got an in-phase gradient echo, an out
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of-phase gradient echo, so-called OOPGRE, an IP,
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in-phase gradient echo on the left, and then on
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the right is a T2 spin echo with fat suppression.
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Now, for those of you youngins out there, the
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reason you know this is an out-of-phase MRI is
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because of this India ink appearance of structures.
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That contain water, like the kidney.
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The kidney has water in it, surrounded by fat.
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So, if I outline this India ink phenomenon,
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it's this black line right here.
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That.
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Because you have water inside the kidney
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against fat in the retroperitoneum.
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And this is called chemical shift
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effect, if you want the science of it.
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Which occurs in the X-encoded direction.
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Which is right to left or left to right.
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Now, if we now analyze our mass, which is a cyst,
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basically, it's got water signal intensity on these
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gradient echo images and water signal intensity on
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the T2, and we look at the mass, we see that there
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is that black line between our water-containing
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mass, I'll draw over it again right there,
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and the surrounding fat.
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On the other hand, if we look at our out-of-phase
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image, and by the way, if you want to know how to do
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this, all you've got to do is look at your manual.
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Your vendor is going to tell you.
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Here's the T.E.
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35 00:01:30,555 --> 00:01:33,725 you choose for out-of-phase imaging, happens to be
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2.2, and here's the T.E.
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38 00:01:35,295 --> 00:01:36,805 you use for in-phase imaging.
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So you don't have to memorize that,
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it's going to come in a little booklet for you.
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Now look at your lesion, which has water in it,
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your so-called cyst against the water inside the
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kidney, a water-containing structure, water against
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water, no India ink black interface between the two.
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So if you could go ahead now and help us define
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how you use that and what it means in terms
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of bulk fat and voxel fat or intravoxel fat.
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So, a couple of things.
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So whenever we look, we're looking for fat
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really in cases to try to distinguish, uh,
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angiomyolipomas from renal cell carcinoma.
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Because as we know, both, uh, AMLs and renal
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cysts, uh, excuse me, both angiomyolipomas
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and clear cell carcinomas will enhance.
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And how we can differentiate those two
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entities is by identifying bulk fat.
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And if we can see bulk fat, we can say clearly
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it's an AML and go on to the next case.
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Bulk fat is macroscopic fat.
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61 00:02:44,334 --> 00:02:46,594 Bulk fat is macroscopic fat,
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and that's when we see this chemical shift.
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And as you had pointed out,
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when you see, uh, India ink interposed between a
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lesion and bulk fat, then you're not dealing
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with bulk fat within the lesion itself.
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And in this example, we know we're dealing
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with a non-bulk fat lesion because we don't see
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this line either internally between fluid and
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fluid interface or within the lesion itself.
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In a companion case to that, where we were asked
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to evaluate an indeterminate small renal mass.
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And here in the in-phase, out-of-phase.
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We clearly see an India ink, uh, interface
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between the lesion and the kidney, which
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is, you know, vascular, fluid, and vascular.
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So this line lets us know that
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we're dealing with bulk fat.
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And this is an angiomyolipoma in a
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classic woman who's 43 years old.
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Um, and even though this is a very
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easy example to illustrate, finding
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bulk fat is sometimes very difficult.
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And another tool you can use is
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your fat-suppressed sequences.
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And in this case, for example, the T2 fat
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suppressed, it follows fat on all sequences.
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But the reality is, is CT, even though
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this is an MR core, CT is, uh, more, uh,
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favorable in trying to identify bulk.
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So just to summarize, in the other case
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we showed, we had a mass that was water.
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And it was surrounded by fat.
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So we had water against the background.
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I'll make the fat a different color.
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I'll make the fat blue.
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And then between those two interfaces, we had an
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India ink sign because we had water against fat.
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So we had the interface out here.
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In this case, we've got a fatty lesion in the
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center surrounded by water inside the kidney.
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And so we have the India ink sign,
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fat with a background of water.
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And then you top that off by saying, on the
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T2 fat suppression image, which is on the
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far right, the signal intensity of our fat
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containing lesion suppressed just like the
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subcutaneous fat in the back of the patient.
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Pomeranz and Finazzo out.
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