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Okay, we've got a difficult case,
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a problem-solving case in a 76-year-old man.
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He's got an elevated PSA of 12.28 on 2/23/18.
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However, his PSA on 3/22/12, which was
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almost six years earlier, was 5.28.
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So the PSA is rising.
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His PSA density was 0.173 nanograms per ml per CC.
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So typically, the cutoff value for
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PSA density for increased risk is 0.2.
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making process when we do clinical radiographic
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correlation and expand our scoring method
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to the Likert scoring method, which is used
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by more advanced practitioners integrating
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the clinical with the radiographic.
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So let's take a look at this case.
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We start out, maybe not with the optimal image
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that I want to show you, but there is an area
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of mass effect that straddles the surgical
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capsule, which is a pseudocapsule, between the
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TZ and the PZ, the PZ being a little bit whiter.
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Now one caveat that's been brought to
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my attention, and it's true, TZ cancers
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almost never develop posteriorly.
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They're usually in the
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anterior portion of the gland.
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And they usually like to butt up against the AS.
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And in my experience, they also like to cross the
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midline in this area, the so-called gray zone.
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So these are usually larger cancers,
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and they often do diffusion restrict.
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So this cancer's a little further back.
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So one question you have to ask yourself is, is
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this a cancer being extruded from the TZP, or is
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it a cancer that is in the PZ that's invading?
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Now we've got some strong evidence that
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all is not well in the state of prostate.
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On the right, we've got diffusion
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restriction that's exaggerated.
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We've got very dark signal on the ADC map.
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Pay no attention to this linear area
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of abnormality in the left PZP and PZM,
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because we're going to tackle it separately.
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Let's stay with this lesion
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and let's roll and scroll.
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And here we've got more typical PZ signal.
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Nice and bright.
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Separated from the TZ by
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the false surgical capsule.
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Not to be confused with the anatomic capsule.
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But we also have a well
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defined encapsulated nodule.
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That's good.
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So we don't want to see this phenomenon of
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Intermediate signal intensity with smearing,
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with an ill-defined crescentaric character to it.
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And we don't, at this level.
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Now let's go back to our other lesion.
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Our other lesion, we don't have
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that encapsulated look anymore.
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So even if it was in the TZ, we still
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have to be nervous because of its shape.
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And its diffusion characteristics.
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We'll get to the DCE, Dynamic
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Contrast-Enhanced MRI, in a moment.
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Let's keep scrolling though.
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As we get down lower, here's a pretty
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white, arcuate, clean, peripheral
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zone, down low, closer to the apex.
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But on the other side, there's no doubt
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anymore that our lesion, which has mass
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effect, which has a lot of capsular contact,
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worrisome for capsular invasion, is in the PZ.
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We go over to our diffusion high B value
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image, and it is as white as a ghost.
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It's easy.
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And we go over to the ADC map, and it is black.
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Now we go over to the contrast-enhanced image.
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And even though it's not overwhelmingly
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hypervascular, it does correspond
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in shape to this lesion over here.
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And on the next cut, the shape,
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I think, is even a little better.
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And it looks a little different
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than anything else on the image.
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I'm going to window it rather tightly for you.
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You absolutely have to call this a
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PIRADS 5 in the right anterior PZ.
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Because of its shape, its size, greater than 1.
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5 and its diffusion characteristics.
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You can even forget about the
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DCAMRI, which is positive.
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Now we also have some linear foci
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in the back and the PZ on the right,
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which do not diffusion restrict.
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So we would write these off as areas
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of linear scar, so-called PIRADS 2.
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Now we've got another lesion
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that's a little bit more difficult.
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It's kind of a tweener.
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It's rather linear, but not as linear as the one
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on the right in the left posterior PZM or PZP.
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It does have diffusion restriction,
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but not as powerful or as intense
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as the one seen on this side.
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It does have some hypodensity
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or intensity on the ADC map.
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It does have a little bit of hypervascularity.
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It does not have the size
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criteria for a PIRADS 5.
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So, this one, you could go with
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a PIRADS 3 or a PIRADS 4.
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You could kind of straddle
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the fence and make a decision.
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So how are you going to make your decision?
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Well, first of all, does it really matter?
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You're already going in after this
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lesion, so don't fret over it.
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You're going to take a sample of that anyway.
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Just direct the clinician to that location.
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You could use your PSA density, which is under 0.2,
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to downgrade it into the PIRADS 3 category.
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Or you could say, you know what, I've already
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got a cancer, it's a big cancer, it looks
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like a potentially aggressive cancer, the PSA
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density is below 2, but not that much below 2.
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It's 0.
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17, the patient's age, the rise in the PSA,
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and all of those things coming together, I
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think I'll err on the side of probable cancer,
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And I would go with a Likert classification,
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in which I integrate all of the factors,
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in this case, to push it up a little bit.
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But once again, I remind you, it doesn't
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really matter, because you're going
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in and you're biopsying it anyway.
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Now, a couple of other caveats.
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We've already said that TZ cancers, and
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this is not a TZ cancer, it's a PZ cancer.
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But initially it looked like a TZ cancer,
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but most TZ cancers are in the front.
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Another helpful characteristic that we already
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pointed out was the phenomenon of encapsulation.
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A third phenomenon in the TZ that'll help
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you, especially when you have these extruded
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areas of TZ that push into the PZ that
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look a little scary, is when you see nice,
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bright, white, hyperplastic acini, like this.
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This implies differentiation.
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You know, you're making secretory material.
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So when you see these microcysts
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associated with your mass or your nodule,
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that is a potential sign of benignity.
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So I think we'll, we'll stop
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right there on this case.
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We've got an anterior rightward, an
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anterior right PZ, Pirates 5, Likert 5.
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In other words, this is
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cancer till proven otherwise.
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with a large area of capsular contact,
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suspicious for capsular microinvasion.
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We've got a non-contentious linear lesion,
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probably remote scarring from prostatitis, with
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no diffusion restriction, and no abnormality
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on the ADC map, and no hypervascularity.
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And we've got a tweener lesion, in the left
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PZP PZM, that has some Diffusion restriction,
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and some signal alteration on the ADC map,
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and some vascularity, and we've given you
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some criteria to decide whether you're
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going to go PIRADS 3 or PIRADS 4, or you're
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going to use the clinical radiographic
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