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Knee Meniscus Signals - Hold 'em or Fold 'em?

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Now, let's go back over to the lateral side.

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And this is the only case we're going

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to seek to understand today.

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And I want to focus on a few terms.

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We're on the other side and I'd like

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you to notice that as we scroll,

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the meniscus really never comes back together.

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There's always a connection to the bow tie.

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That shouldn't happen. Right. If that happens,

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you've got meniscal dysplasia.

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The most common type of meniscal dysplasia is

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either an incomplete or a complete form of

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discoid lateral meniscus, which this is.

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But I'm not so interested in the dysplasia

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right now. I'm interested in some terms.

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Okay, we've established that there is a dysplasia,

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but look at the signal.

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The signal is not just this sort of bunny

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ear signal. In the outer third,

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it keeps going into the middle

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third and the inner third,

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and it is equal in intensity compared to the

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outer third. That can never, ever happen.

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You are not allowed to have equal signal,

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if that's a word,

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in the inner third compared with the outer third,

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disallowed. Does that mean it's surgical?

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No. Does that mean it's abnormal?

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Yes.

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Lots of people have signal in the inner third.

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In fact, everybody does, who's over 860,

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because everybody over 860 has a cleavage tear,

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but we're not going to operate on it.

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So you got to learn to distinguish,

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you got to learn when to hold

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them and when to fold them,

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because if you fold them once the meniscus is out,

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you can never put it back in.

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There is no procedure that works

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where you can put it back in.

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Another important aspect of assessing this signal

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is the signal should never continue

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running all the way through.

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It should never run with equal

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intensity through the body.

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Let's see if I can convert back over for a minute.

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I'll try it.

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So let's see if that occurs here.

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Well, it isn't quite equal.

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It starts to faint in the middle third.

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So I don't think that phenomenon is very

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well illustrated here. But believe me,

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this tear is communicating all the way

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to the front. You might say, well,

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there's a tear here, there's a tear here.

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Maybe they're not connected. That's possible,

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but that's stupid. That's stupid stuff.

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You got a big giant tear that's the same shape as

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the one in the back and they're not connected.

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That's silly. Of course they have to be connected,

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even if you don't see it.

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It's just common sense.

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And you already know you have a dysplastic

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meniscus. And if you're a little educated,

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you know that meniscus splits right in the middle

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into two parts. So with a little bit of knowledge,

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which can sometimes be dangerous,

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you know that this entire cleavage

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signal has to be one thing.

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So don't try and over manipulate it.

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Don't try and overthink it.

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It's a meniscus that's turking into a turkey.

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It's turning into a turkey sandwich.

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What's happening is just this.

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See if my drawing tool works.

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Here it is in purple.

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Here's my discoid meniscus.

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The tear is just going right down the barrel,

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the center of the meniscus,

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right through those weaker collagen bands

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that are normal, that conducts an ovium.

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It's a little looser in there.

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Unfortunately, in these dysplastic meniscai,

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that loose area starts to come apart.

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And if you put it on the table and

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you turn it like this vertically,

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turn the meniscus vertically,

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the thing will go like this.

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This half will fall that way,

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that half will fall the other way.

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The meniscus will fall into two pieces.

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The two pieces of bread from

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the sandwich fall apart,

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and you got just a piece of turkey in the middle.

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It's horrible saying, oh, my God, what do you do?

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Nothing.

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Currently, the state of the art is,

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there is no good treatment for this scenario.

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But that's not why we're here,

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unfortunately.

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at some point, the meniscus blows.

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You got to leave it until it blows,

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and then it has to be resected.

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But there's more.

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Let's talk about what's happening in the front.

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In the front, we've got, as we said, this little,

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tiny, round, globular thing,

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which is a meniscal pseudocyst.

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Why is it a pseudocyst?

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Because it's not lined by epithelium or synovium.

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It's lined by fibrous tissue as opposed to

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a true cyst, which is epithelial line.

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So we say there's a perimeniscal small

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pseudocyst of meniscal origin

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that is four x 3 size.

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Sometimes you'll get them in the meniscus.

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That's okay. Just describe it.

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Sometimes out of the meniscus when they're really,

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really big,

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you may have to fix this and then resect from the

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outside, so you may have to go outside and inside.

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So then it really starts to matter if it's

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not a meniscal tear. Like a ganglion.

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It'll do something like this.

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It'll make a big mass.

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And it'll go above the meniscus.

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So the tail goes above, or the tail may go below,

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but it doesn't go in the center.

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So it's like belly buttons.

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Ganglia. Belly button. Audi. Audi.

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Whereas meniscal pseudocyst. Belly button.

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Right in the center. It's an innie.

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Stephen J Pomeranz, MD

Chief Medical Officer, ProScan Imaging. Founder, MRI Online

ProScan Imaging

Tags

Trauma

Syndromes

Musculoskeletal (MSK)

MRI

Knee

Idiopathic

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